On May 29, 2025, I appeared on the Who Versus podcast for a fun and freewheeling discussion about architecture, power, and the values embedded in our public buildings. What began as a discussion of Brutalism and the movie The Brutalist opened into a broader reflection on how architectural choices shape civic experience and reveal the assumptions behind them. We talked about many other things, including deconstructivism, Art Deco, and the historic urban plans that have guided the design of Washington, D.C. since the country’s founding.
The podcast hosts were Phil Reboli, senior director of government affairs at the Conservative Partnership Institute, and James Holland, president of the Conservative Partnership Campus.
Listen to the episode at Apple Podcasts or watch at YouTube.